„We really don’t care what others think of what we buy. But of course, we hope that we are buying good art.“Matthias Birkholz

Collector, entrepreneur, solicitor, and co-founder of art space SMAC, Matthias Birkholz tells us what Berlin is lacking and the tricky task of choosing what art to buy with his wife, Stephanie Hundertmark.

FAM: When you buy art with your wife, Stephanie – do you always decide together on an art piece?
We always buy together and we always decide together. Most of the time we like the same art but sometimes not.

Sebastiaan Schlicher, Happy Skydiver, 2006

And then?
We still buy it! Stephanie likes minimalistic art and has chosen to buy works by Channa Horwitz, so we have two pieces and she liked them more then I did and I guess she was right.

Did you ever sell art again?
No. We have a storage and thankfully space at both of our law firms' offices as well.

Falk Haberkorn, La revoluzione siete stati voi, (You have been the revolution). Image: © Petrov Ahner

My experience in Germany is that nobody wants to be called “collector” as this sounds too strategic, what do you think?
Actually my impression is that a lot of people like to be called collectors. Maybe not in an interview but they still like to be in books about collections. Actually, I don’t care, if you want to call us a collector couple, that is fine. Honestly, I know my limitations, I am no art historian. It is an evolution like eating cheese or drinking red wine. It is a process of exposing yourself to art, there is no overall concept. We would never decide against a work on the basis that it wouldn’t “fit” into our existing collection. We really don’t care what others think about what we buy. But of course, we hope that we are buying good art.

What is the most important aspect of an artwork for you?
That it touches and speaks to me. For me, it is not about the craftsmanship of a piece that attracts me but its essence. It is often a comment on life that I found personally interesting. Like this work by Falk Haberkorn.

Matthias Birkholz in front of Heaven Hell Machine, 2010 by Jenny Michel

So, was there a point where you experienced this feeling in your life?
I like art that tells me something about myself—that comments on life and on my life. For me Haberkorn's work feels like a punishment in school. Writing over and over again the same line on a chalk board. With this work a couple of things come together: first, it is beautiful but it also asks: Are we doing the right thing? Or is there something else we should do? Is this it? A well-constructed penthouse in Berlin?

How is the online art market evolving in your eyes? And do you see it continuing to increase?
I certainly think so, afterall we just opened a web shop… but honestly, I personally only buy works from artists that I have physically seen. There was a certain hesitation of artists and gallerists to sell art online. They seem to prefer it the traditional way but this seems to be changing fast!

Image: © Petrov Ahner

Is there an artist you have an eye on right now?
An artist I really like is Jenny Michel. The big collage piece in the kitchen is from her. It has discolored slightly because of the sunlight but I asked the artist before hanging it and she didn't mind in the slightest. The effect is actually rather good. Her work is so intelligent and often very beautiful and elaborate, but also tells you something. We like Sven Johne and Adrian Sauer very much too who are both represented by Klemms.

Did you ever buy an artwork by an artist you didn’t know?
Yes. But the interesting question is: did we ever buy work by an artist we didn’t like?

Image: © Petrov Ahner

Did you?
Yes. This is how art can be, it says something and is done beautifully but you don’t connect with the artist.

Your art space SMAC has become very popular, how did you come up with the idea for it?
Everything important I do in life and art, I do together with my partner and wife Stephanie. We bought this house and found the foundations of an old building buried under concrete in the courtyard. As we were cleaning it up we found an old cellar and we thought “Why not rebuild the whole house?” And so we did. We decided to do something useful with it, besides organizing birthday parties there for our children.

Left: Jorinde Voigt, <i>Masse und Macht „Rhythmus“</i>, 2013. Right: Marcel Bühler, <i>Cinema of the Mind</i>, 2010. Images: © Petrov Ahner

What is the concept behind SMAC?
We didn’t want to associate it with our names as we thought that for the artists it would be better if we could create some kind of pseudo institution. As it is right in the center of Berlin, it gives young artists real credibility to say “I have an exhibition in Berlin”. Carla Chan, the artist who will exhibit next at SMAC at the end of January 2016, is a young, talented Hong Kong artist who does intelligent and poetic video works.

You also offer editions at SMAC—how did this start?
We do SMAC for fun and of course also to support artists we like. SMAC started with this general idea and it kept evolving. First, we organized exhibitions with no commercial focus. Next, we wanted to create some commercial support for the artists by working together with their galleries and, if they did not have one, sell art through SMAC. Finally, we started producing editions. Now we have seven and do one for each exhibition. They serve as a great entry point into buying art.

Image: © Petrov Ahner

With SMAC you bypass the challenges of a normal gallery…
Of course it is in a way easier for us, as SMAC is not about making money but more about supporting artists to set up an exhibition and maybe getting some of the production costs back. We serve plenty of wine at the openings, maybe that is why also so many people come by!

If you could change one thing in the Berlin art scene what would it be?
That is very easy to answer, we need a real art fair. It is a big loss that we only have Art Berlin Contemporary (abc). The art scene in Berlin is unique, but commercial people don’t really make use of it. They always complain that there are not enough collectors and the big sales are done elsewhere. This might be true, but all the artists are here and the environment is so vibrant.

 

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